Legal firms already have most of the technology they need to work better, so why aren’t they using it?
If you are one of the roughly 200,000 people getting a divorce in England and Wales this year, you know how painful and stressful the ordeal can be. As well as deciding who gets what, you might have to look for somewhere to live, and there could also be children and maintenance payments to consider. That, alone, can be an emotional minefield.
Then there is the legal process, which is far from easy. Solicitors (who significantly add to the costs) hold all the knowledge and most of the power in these situations – very few people attempt to get a divorce or buy a house without some degree of professional legal advice.
Lucy Bassli, an Assistant General Counsel at Microsoft, believes the sector is ripe to be dragged into the 21st century. In her words, law is a “closed” business that’s too complicated and desperately needs to be democratized, handing the power to the people who just want to get divorced, for example, and close a tragic chapter in their lives.
It’s hard to disagree when you look at the costly and lengthy process you have to go through to legally separate from a partner in most of the UK. Adding to the stress, there is a completely different process if you live in Scotland or Northern Ireland, or your partner “lacks the mental capacity” to agree to a divorce.
Bassli is here to help. She believes the law “was created by lawyers and for lawyers” and the public has no choice but to hire legal professionals. That has to change, she says.
“Lawyers will say: ‘We’ll help you, what do you need? For several hundred dollars an hour I will help you accomplish that task’. That is the legal sector right now. We need to change that.
“People can’t get basic things done because we have created a closed system that says you can’t get those things done without going through a lawyer. If you need a divorce, a sad and unfortunate reality that happens, it needs a legal proceeding. People have to pay a toll, basically, to help them go through one of the most disturbing and challenging parts of their life, and it costs a ton of money to file a few papers.
“There’s also another, higher calling here for digitally transforming the legal sector – access to justice.”
It’s a big aim for someone who started out at Microsoft as a “regular lawyer”, in Bassli’s own words, but now has a big remit.
The 42-year-old was born in Odessa, Ukraine, and moved to the US with her family when she was five – first to New Orleans and then Houston. She graduated from the University of Houston with a degree in Russian Studies and Political Science, before earning her Juris Doctor degree. After law school Bassli swapped the heat of Texas for the unpredictable weather of Seattle, where she joined a small bankruptcy law firm. She was later recruited by the big firm Davis Wright Tremaine, before learning about an opening at Microsoft.
That was 12 years ago. Bassli is now sat in Microsoft’s London office after flying over from the company’s headquarters in Redmond. She is passionately talking about the legal sector, data, analytics, contracts, diversity and GDPR, to name a few topics, just hours after meeting firms in the UK and speaking at an event in the capital. Her busy schedule is testament to how much her role has grown since she joined Microsoft in 2004. An expert in spotting efficiencies and automation, she now uses technology to help lawyers think about how they can get their job done quicker and easier. “I realised I loved the ‘how’ more than I loved doing the deals,” she says.
While admitting the legal sector is “very paper-based and form-driven” – in the US you have to punch holes in court documents in a certain way or they won’t be accepted – Bassli also believes those who work in the sector are ready for change; they just need to be shown that data can transform their world. “Data is like a drug to lawyers – they don’t know how much they love it until they get a taste of it, and suddenly they want more. But another thing they don’t know is that they are sitting on a mountain of the stuff.” Here’s the problem: data is useless without someone to turn it into something that can be used. That takes cutting-edge technology such as AI and machine learning, which is often outside a lawyer’s comfort zone. Research earlier this year by Microsoft and online magazine Legal Week found that lawyers are struggling to work to their full potential because their firms fail to give them the right technology. More than 86% of those surveyed said they still used a pen and paper to complete legal work, and half said their firm had “not satisfactorily adapted to any technological changes that may have been adopted over the past few years”. Bassli sighs and nods as though she has seen this scenario many times. “Throwing a bunch of data at an attorney is not going to get you where you want to go.” The solution? Law firms need to hire people who aren’t lawyers.Data is like a drug to lawyers – they don’t know how much they love it until they get a taste of it, and suddenly they want more
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